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1. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Again, it's more of the same tired old "logic". You say that you don't fear trade bots, you just find them "disgusting". If you genuinely believe that they only hurt the people who use them both in terms of their pocketbook and in terms of their ...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.11 14:25:00
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2. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Originally by: Matthew Every AI in every computer game since the dawn of time could be dismissed as "just a bot". Yet these games have been providing sufficient challenge to players to play them for decades. I see no reason why that shoul...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.11 13:09:00
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3. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
As a small aside, I suppose you could make a market bot in AutoIt, but it'd be a ridiculous way to go about it. It'd be much slower versus a compiled program, it'd be less efficient (AutoIt just isn't really built for that degree of OCR, it's on...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.11 12:40:00
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4. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
There are really just two reasons to macro/bot in a game. Both reasons need not apply to each instance of botting/macroing, but at least one always does. 1. To flat out break the mechanics of the game by using a computer perform actions at a le...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.11 12:15:00
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5. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Edited by: Clara Klein on 07/02/2008 00:52:27 Originally by: Minerva Vulcan In fact, they have said it's against the EULA, despite any creative interpretations you might come up with. Actually, the specific ruling on AutoTrader (re...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.07 00:50:00
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6. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan The mouse still requires user interaction. TS and Vent don't interact with the client in any way. The rules, however, don't say that such programs are exempt simply because they do or not interact with th...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 23:21:00
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7. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Originally by: Shar Tegral Ambo is right, you are chopping logic and badly. I wouldn't really say so. The problem with the EULA (and Terms of Service) is that it is, in many ways, very subjective on some matters. For instance, I have a...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 20:59:00
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8. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Whether or not they allow such programs, they will exist. We were using our bot for a solid week before CCP even responded to our petitions concerning its legality. I doubt they even have anything designed to detect such bots. Even with these bots...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 13:07:00
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9. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Edited by: Clara Klein on 06/02/2008 12:42:47 Originally by: LaVista Vista If CCP thinks what you do is wrong, they WILL ban you. Yup, that's why we talked to CCP first and why I've put in a forum report and an in-game petition in ...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 12:40:00
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10. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Edited by: Clara Klein on 06/02/2008 12:19:29 Originally by: Robacz This is BS. Anyone having/using such software wouldn't be speaking about it or even trying to launch IPO. I would say it is original way to scam. They would be...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 12:17:00
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11. Market Bots? - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Just weighing in on this since I happen to be the only person involved with an autonomous trading program that is willing to speak about it. Market bots most certainly do exist. If you've ever studied computer science at a university level, you'd...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 11:52:00
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12. Investment Opportunity - 10-30% reliable weekly turnover - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Originally by: Ambo More importantly though - it's not been tested. I NEVER EVER count on an automated not to fail unless it's been rigorously tested and even then I'm very wary. If these guys were capping investment at say 10 bil for now ...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 09:23:00
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13. Investment Opportunity - 10-30% reliable weekly turnover - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Since the consensus seems to be that folks would find this offer interesting only if it were vetted by CCP, I'm going to be placing it on hold until such time as I can get a confirmable CCP response. I'm confident that the specifics of the program...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 09:05:00
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14. Investment Opportunity - 10-30% reliable weekly turnover - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Originally by: LaVista Vista Unless you can prove that you have had any communication with CCP, im gonna call bull****. CCP would by no means allow such things as you describe. Actually posting chatlogs with CCP folks IS against the EU...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 07:57:00
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15. Investment Opportunity - 10-30% reliable weekly turnover - in Market Discussions [original thread]
Originally by: Kwint Sommer Ignoring EULA issues and viability of the investment, I don't suppose you have some credentials such as a main with a reputation or someone that can vouch for you? As I've noted, no EULA issues were ignored....
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 07:45:00
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16. Investment Opportunity - 10-30% reliable weekly turnover - in Market Discussions [original thread]
The difference between most macro-mining or standard bot operations is that they do break the EULA in a very clear-cut way. They intercept and modify packets from client to server. This is actually the easiest way to design a bot, hence why it's n...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 07:40:00
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17. Investment Opportunity - 10-30% reliable weekly turnover - in Market Discussions [original thread]
I was actually worried about this being in breach of the EULA myself and so I specifically asked CCP folks about. From our discussion it was decided that our program was not in specific breach of the EULA because it did not directly intercept or m...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 07:19:00
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18. Investment Opportunity - 10-30% reliable weekly turnover - in Market Discussions [original thread]
To put it simply my clan and I are offering the opportunity to assist in a computer-assisted margin trading operation. Investors will receive weekly returns of between 10% and 30% (depending on the specifics of the investment). Although we have ye...
- by Clara Klein - at 2008.02.06 06:59:00
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